Lego vs. Minecraft

SPEAKER 1: From the brains behind Brains On, it's Smash, Boom, Best.

SPEAKER 2: The show for people with big opinions.

MOLLY BLOOM: Hi. I'm Molly Bloom, and this is Smash, Boom, Best, the show where we take two things, smash them together, and ask you to decide which one is best. Today, we've got a builder's battle you're going to dig.

It's LEGO versus Minecraft. Which team will win? Those universally beloved plastic bricks or that digital realm of biomes and blocks? We've got Josh from Denver here to help us decide. Hi, Josh.

JOSH: Hello.

MOLLY BLOOM: So, Josh, I hear you are a member of your school robotics team. What kind of robots have you built?

JOSH: So we specialize in building robots for a yearly game that tend to be about 42 inches tall. The most recent one was able to lift itself up off the ground and shoot a couple of balls.

MOLLY BLOOM: That is amazing. So what other activities do you do at school right now?

JOSH: Me and my friends always joke about the fact that I hold the triforce of nerd at my school because I participate in robotics, speech and debate, and theater.

MOLLY BLOOM: Oh, my goodness, you are very well-rounded. I love it. So are you building anything else right now outside of robotics?

JOSH: I did do a bit of set build for our show, Clue, that just finished two days ago.

MOLLY BLOOM: Amazing. So what pops in your head when I say LEGO?

JOSH: I usually think of the little colorful bricks that are 2 pegs by 4 pegs.

MOLLY BLOOM: Very, very cool. And do you build with LEGOs yourself?

JOSH: I used to. I haven't done it in a bit because I just haven't had the time, but I used to be all about it. Like, I think I built a recreation of a chamber of secrets once.

MOLLY BLOOM: Very, very cool. And so, what about Minecraft? What pops in your head when I say Minecraft?

JOSH: Spending time with friends when we can't see each other in person.

MOLLY BLOOM: So what is your favorite way to play? Survival? Creative mode?

JOSH: I tend to prefer creative mode because I'm not the best at fighting, but I do really like to build elaborate creations. I recently built a pagoda in Minecraft in a bamboo forest environment.

MOLLY BLOOM: Well, it sounds like you are going to have a blast judging today's debate. It's time to meet our debaters. Here to defend Minecraft, it's Minecraft influencer and author of the New York Times bestselling book series, Wild Rescuers, Stacy Hinojosa, a.k.a. StacyPlays. Hi, Stacy.

STACY HINOJOSA: Hi.

MOLLY BLOOM: Stacy, your book series, Wild Rescuers, sounds amazing. So in one sentence, can you just give us a taste of what it is about?

STACY HINOJOSA: Sure. It is about a girl who lives in the forest with her pack of six wolves, and they adventure all over the world to different biomes, looking for animals that are in need of rescuing.

MOLLY BLOOM: And that's a spin off of your Minecraft YouTube series, right?

STACY HINOJOSA: Yes. I have a Minecraft YouTube series called Dog Craft. And in that series, I live in a forest with six wolves, and we adopt dogs and cats that are just spawning all over the world. And I post the episodes on my YouTube channel, StacyPlays.

MOLLY BLOOM: Everyone should check it out. So Stacy, in a single sentence, why is Minecraft the smash, boom, best?

STACY HINOJOSA: Yeah. Well, if I had to sum up Minecraft in one sentence to someone who hasn't played it before, I would probably say that it's like LEGO, except better in every imaginable way.

MOLLY BLOOM: We've laid it down already. I'm very excited. Here to represent those brilliant bricks we just mentioned, it's LEGO-loving YouTuber and contestant on LEGO Masters USA Season 1, Boone Langston. Hi, Boone.

BOONE LANGSTON: Hi, Molly. Thank you very much for having me on the podcast.

MOLLY BLOOM: We are so happy that you're here. So Boone, just curious, are you building anything fun at the moment?

BOONE LANGSTON: Well, I am currently working on cleaning up and reorganizing my studio. I'm part of the way there. One of the things I would love to build next is a great ball contraption. It is the LEGO fan community's answer to the Rube Goldberg machine. They're very fun and technical, and I have never built one before, so I'm excited to give that a try.

MOLLY BLOOM: New challenge. Awesome. All right, Boone, in one sentence, why is LEGO the coolest?

BOONE LANGSTON: LEGO is the coolest because it allows us to turn our imaginative ideas into physical expressions of creativity that we can experience out here in the real world.

MOLLY BLOOM: I can already tell this is going to be a very tough decision today. First, let's review the flow of the show. We've got four rounds debate. Round one is the declaration of greatness, where our debaters will present fact-filled arguments in favor of their side, followed by 30-second rebuttals from each opponent.

Next, we've got the micro round, where each team will respond to a creative assignment they've received in advance. Round 3 is the sneak attack, where we'll surprise debaters with a challenge they need to respond to on the spot. And to wrap it all up, we've got the final six, where each team will have just six words to drive home the awesomeness of their side.

Our judge, Josh, will award two points in the first round, one for his favorite rebuttal and one for the declaration he likes best. Then, he'll award one point in each round after that, but he'll keep his decision secret until the end of the debate. Listeners, we want you to judge, too. Mark down your points as you listen.

And at the end of the show, head to our website, smashboom.org, and vote for whichever team you think won. OK, everybody, are you ready?

STACY HINOJOSA: Let's do it.

BOONE LANGSTON: Yeah. Let's get our brick on.

MOLLY BLOOM: Then, it's time for the--

SPEAKER 3: Declaration of Greatness.

MOLLY BLOOM: Our debaters will present the most fascinating facts and awesome arguments in favor of their side. We flipped a coin. And Stacy, you're up first. Tell us why Minecraft is the most amazing game on the block.

STACY HINOJOSA: Minecraft is my life. Some people say it's just a video game, but it is so much more. Imagine an infinite digital realm, where you can build, explore, and create forever, and you never have to clean up-- [COUGHS] LEGO.

Welcome to Minecraft. It's amazing. Page and Molly agree. These gals are my dogs in real life, but they exist in Minecraft, too, because you can make anything in Minecraft, even digital versions of your best friends. Today, I'm going to take you inside the game and show you why Minecraft is infinitely cooler than LEGO. Come on, let's go.

Minecraft is an open world game, which means you can walk in any direction-- north, south, east, west-- and you're going to find plains, mountains, deserts, swamps, forests. And the world goes on forever and ever. Much like LEGO, you can build things. But in Minecraft, you have access to unlimited blocks.

You can also play in survival mode, where you'll have to build things while fighting off evil creatures, like zombies and skeletons. But you know what really sets Minecraft apart? The things you build take on a life of their own.

For example, you can use redstone, Minecraft's energy source, to power automated contraptions, or-- and this is what I would do-- you can spawn animals, like wolves, or pandas, or mooshrooms, also known as cows with mushrooms growing on them. And if you're feeling especially chaotic, you can just blow everything up with TNT.

How should we play today? How about we jump into the world of dog craft? Awesome. Or should I say, possum. Here we are in dog craft, the first world I made in Minecraft. This is where I rescue dogs and build homes for them with the help of my trusty wolf pack.

Yep, I created dog craft, which brings me to my next point. Players have influenced Minecraft way more than builders have ever changed the world of LEGO. One way players change the game is with modifications or mods.

I made dog craft by combining 15 different mods to add hundreds of more animals, blocks, and items to my game. You can design your own mods or check out other ones by players, like fossils and archeology, which allows you to dig up dinosaur skeletons and bring them back to life, or biomes aplenty, which adds dozens of new colorful environments to your game.

I even made a mod, called Stacy's Wolves, which adds a bunch of wolves with special powers because I just couldn't get enough wolves. Players have also done things inside Minecraft that the makers of the game didn't even know were possible.

For example, Minecraft player Hans Lemerson built a working computer inside Minecraft and then programmed the computer, so you can play Minecraft in Minecraft. Mind-blown. All right, time for our last point.

Minecraft can actually make you smarter and make school more fun. Double win. Minecraft has been used in classrooms around the world to help teach science, reading, writing, math, foreign language, and history.

It's great for learning about earth science and physics because many real world materials and elements-- diamonds, iron, lava, water, stone, wood-- exist in the game. Want to see history up close? Explore some of the historical replicas players have built in Minecraft, like the Roman Colosseum and the Globe Theater in London.

And for those storytellers out there, you can use Minecraft as inspiration for creative writing. I actually gave myself this assignment. Minecraft inspired my New York Times bestselling book series, Wild Rescuers, about a young girl raised by wolves and her quest to protect their forest home.

[DOGS BARKING]

Oh, right, we're running out of time. OK, so before we go, Paige and Molly want me to remind you that Minecraft is so much cooler than LEGO because you can play with friends around the world and share the things you've built instantly with millions of people. Because guess what? Around 500 million people play worldwide.

And of course, when you play, you won't be stepping on any pesky LEGO bricks. Ouch. So next time you're looking to relax and enjoy a good game, I recommend you put those LEGO bricks aside and step into the world of Minecraft. It's like LEGO, but so much better. [DOGS BARKING] OK, let's play.

MOLLY BLOOM: A brain-building, boundary-busting declaration for Minecraft there. Josh, what stood out to you about Stacy's declaration of greatness?

STACY: Mods, they're definitely something, I think, is underrepresented in all gaming communities. And I was excited to hear about those.

MOLLY BLOOM: All right, Boone, it's time for your rebuttal. You've got 30 seconds to smash Stacy's argument, and your time starts now.

BOONE LANGSTON: Minecraft may be an infinite digital realm, but LEGO is a physical and virtual, a system that translates and can go both ways. You don't need a device to be able to build with LEGO bricks. And if you have a device and no bricks, you can get on to any of the many LEGO digital-designing platforms and have access to unlimited number of bricks in all the colors they've ever been produced in and even some they haven't. Stacy might also have you believe--

MOLLY BLOOM: And time.

BOONE LANGSTON: That's all right. I'm glad I got through the first one.

MOLLY BLOOM: You clearly have a lot to say. And the good thing is, it's your turn. It's time for your declaration. Tell us why LEGO is the smash, boom, best.

BOONE LANGSTON: As you might have guessed, I'm a huge fan of LEGO. They're those little plastic bricks that build worlds, a cultural phenomenon that fuels creativity, teaches real life skills, and is a vessel for imagination. But I'm getting ahead of myself here.

Let's start where it all began. I was six years old. It was Christmas morning, and I came downstairs to see a big box underneath the tree. I was hyped. I tore away the wrapping paper to reveal--

SPEAKER 3: LEGO pirate ship. Cool. Dad, can we build it now?

BOONE LANGSTON: Best gift ever. Am I right? And like always, we built it together. My dad was as excited as I was. At first, it seemed nearly impossible, just staring at the pile of bricks. But surely enough, piece by piece, everything started coming together. And finally, when the ship was done, we were both so proud. LEGO was our special time together. And after it was built, I played with it for hours and hours.

PIRATE: You're welcome to the Black Seas Barracuda, matey.

SPEAKER 3: Aye, aye, captain.

BOONE LANGSTON: Picture this-- a big beautiful black pirate ship. Its red and white striped sails billowing in the wind. Pirates jarring and aye-ayeing about. There's even a pirate monkey. This was my introduction to LEGO. And from that point on, you could say I was hooked.

And this is what LEGO is all about-- tapping into that childlike sense of wonder. The possibilities are endless. You can get a set and follow the instructions, or you can take it all apart and make up whatever you want. It's up to you. It's a great activity to do with friends and family, or it's thoughtful solo time you can get lost in for hours.

You can build and display your creations like pieces of art, collect a variety of sets, or simply create and play. After all, it is a toy. It all started in 1932, when Danish carpenter, Ole Kirk Kristiansen, started building cheap wooden toys to support his family during the Great Depression.

He decided to name his company LEG GODT, meaning play well. It wasn't until the late 1940s that Kristiansen started using this new fangled material called plastic, and it created the LEGO bricks we know today, a.k.a, the automatic binding bricks.

It's a plastic brick with small studs on top and small holes in the hollowed body. This unique design meant you could stack them on top of each other, as well as take them apart in a snap. And do you want to know the coolest part?

This system hasn't changed since, meaning a LEGO brick from 1958 can interlock with a LEGO brick of today, making it a timeless classics. And this system is not only a great work of design, but it teaches us so much.

For starters, playing with LEGO, whether you're sticking them together or pulling them apart, helps children build up their hand-eye coordination. LEGO also teaches us how to problem solve. Because, sometimes, you don't have a certain brick you need, or maybe you're building something no one has ever seen before.

So you've got to get innovative and try different things out. And this whole process helps foster creativity, patience, and focus, all without any screen time. And everyone wants to be a part of the LEGO universe, including some of your favorite characters.

Just think about it. There's a LEGO set for all of our favorite franchises, be it Marvel, Batman, Harry Potter, or Star Wars, not to mention, kick-butt video games. There's also Legoland theme parks which see millions of people each year. And who could forget the LEGO movies?

So Whether LEGO is the center of family time, the vessel of your dreams, teaching you tangible skills, or inspiring the next generation of creatives, there's no doubt that you just can't beat this brick. It never fails to take me back to that Christmas morning, that pure childlike wonder, something I get to share with my kids now.

SPEAKER 3: Hey, dad, can we play LEGO Pirates again?

BOONE LANGSTON: Only if I get to be the monkey. OK, I have to go now. But I'll leave you with the LEGO slogan. LEGO-- only the best is good enough. Brick drop. Boone out.

MOLLY BLOOM: A strongly built argument indeed. Josh, what stood out to you about Boone's declaration of greatness?

JOSH: I was actually very intrigued by the section about building hand-eye coordination. I was also excited to see connections to all of the licenses that LEGO has worked with, like Harry Potter, Marvel, Doctor Who, whatever else.

MOLLY BLOOM: Excellent. Well, Stacy, I'm guessing you have some thoughts you'd like to share with us. It's time for your rebuttal. You've got 30 seconds to blow up your competition, and your time starts now.

STACY HINOJOSA: OK. That was a really nice story about when he was six, but do you really think he still has those LEGOs? I doubt it. They are so easy to break, so easy to lose. A Minecraft world, you can save forever. It's password-protected.

The sets are so expensive. I bought Minecraft in 2012. I'm still playing the game. I haven't had to pay anything more. They've added so much to the game. He mentioned that you can use the LEGO planner online, but you can also get your Minecraft builds 3D printed.

MOLLY BLOOM: And time. Whoa, virtual, analog, real world, online. Whoa, very cool. All right, Josh, it's time to award your first two points. Remember, it's your job to decide which side made the cooler argument. Use whatever criteria makes sense to you. Was one team funnier?

Did the other make a more persuasive presentation? So award a point to the team that had your favorite declaration of greatness, and the other point goes to whoever you thought had the best rebuttal. Don't tell us who's getting those points. Have you made your decisions, Josh?

JOSH: I have.

MOLLY BLOOM: Excellent. Boone and Stacy, how are you feeling about this fabulous face-off?

BOONE LANGSTON: This is so much fun. Stacy, you are a formidable opponent. I'm pleased to be a part of this.

STACY HINOJOSA: Same to you. I see that you may be still have that pirate ship.

BOONE LANGSTON: I do still have the pirate ship.

STACY HINOJOSA: That's unfortunate.

MOLLY BLOOM: All right, it's time for a quick break. Organize your bricks or go on a stroll through some beautiful biomes.

JOSH: And we'll be right back with more Smash, Boom, Best.

SPEAKER 1: You're watching state of debate, home to rage in rhetoric and awe-inspiring argumentation.

TAYLOR LINCOLN: Howdy, debaterinos. Taylor Lincoln here with everyone's favorite debater buddy, Todd Douglass.

TODD DOUGLAS: Oh, you're my favorite debater buddy. But you know what's not my favorite? Logical fallacies.

TAYLOR LINCOLN: The worst. They're misleading and make your arguments weak.

TODD DOUGLAS: And today, we have a very stinky one, the anecdotal evidence fallacy.

TAYLOR LINCOLN: That's when you base a whole argument on something that happened once.

TODD DOUGLAS: Let's listen in on these two pups at the dog park.

GERTIE: Hi, Archie. Do you like my bow? I was at the groomers yesterday.

ARCHIE: Wait, wait, wait, Gertie. Did you just say you went to the groomers?

GERTIE: Yeah, and I got this sweet bow, also got my nails trimmed, and my chompers cleaned.

ARCHIE: I can't believe you went to the groomers. I'm never going to the groomers again. Did you hear what happened to Bert? He went to the groomers last week. And when he got home, he puked all over the carpet.

GERTIE: But isn't he always eating grass?

ARCHIE: He went to the groomers, came home, and puked. Groomers-- puke. Going to the groomers makes dogs puke. No, thank you. I'll just go roll in this interesting stench over here instead. Bye.

TODD DOUGLAS: Not cool, Archie. First off, he uses the anecdotal evidence fallacy, and then he leaves without complimenting Gertie's bow.

TAYLOR LINCOLN: That dog's got a rude 'tude and poor reasoning skills.

TODD DOUGLAS: Just because Bert felt queasy after the groomers, doesn't mean it's the groomers fault.

TAYLOR LINCOLN: Something that happens one time is not enough evidence to back up your argument.

TODD DOUGLAS: And if your friend has a new bow, compliment it.

TAYLOR LINCOLN: I like your new tie, Todd.

TODD DOUGLAS: Thanks. It has tiny carrots on it.

TAYLOR LINCOLN: Cute. Until next time debate heads. This has been a speak of debate.

GROUP: Boom, boom, boom. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Smash, boom, best.

MOLLY BLOOM: You are listening to Smash, Boom, Best. I'm your host, Molly Bloom.

JOSH: And I'm your judge, Josh.

MOLLY BLOOM: One of my favorite things about this show is all the amazing debate ideas we get from listeners like you. Check out this awesome debate suggestion from Leo in Brookline, Massachusetts.

LEO: My debate idea is T-Rex versus triceratops.

JOSH: Well, that idea is dinomite.

MOLLY BLOOM: We'll check back with Leo at the end of this episode to see which side he thinks should win.

JOSH: And now, it's back to our debate of the day-- LEGO versus Minecraft.

MOLLY BLOOM: That's right, and it's time for round two, the--

SPEAKER 3: Micro round.

MOLLY BLOOM: Our micro round is ultimate getaway. For this challenge, Stacy and Boone had to channel their inner travel agent and sell us a vacation to a LEGO or Minecraft resort. It's their job to tell us why this will be the trip of a lifetime. OK, Stacy went first last time, so Boone, you're up. Let's hear about your legit LEGO location.

BOONE LANGSTON: Are you tired of staring at your screen for hours? Do you need a brick or breath of fresh air? Then, it's time to book your trip to LEGOtropolis, the one stop destination of your dreams. We've got everything.

Looking for something tropical? Brick Bay has the most gorgeous beaches, with the softest white sand blocks around. And afterwards, you can kick back at the hotel and sprawl out on your super-sized LEGO bed. The sturdy bricks do wonders for your back. Primo lumbar support.

We've even stocked your wardrobe with fits for any occasion. We've got business casual, wizard robes, or space suits, and hairstyles to match. Humidity-resistant, of course. And if sightseeing is more your thing, well, you're in luck. LEGOtropolis condensed all the top landmarks to one base plate. Convenient, right?

You can visit classics, like the Colosseum, the Sydney Opera House, and the Great Wall of China, all in one go. They look even more magnificent in block form. Trust me. Plus, the mini figures of LEGOtropolis are some of the most friendly folks around. Just look at their yellow smiling faces, so welcoming.

SPEAKER 4: Hello.

BOONE LANGSTON: So what are you waiting for? Book your tickets to LEGOtropolis today, where everything is awesome.

MOLLY BLOOM: I can't wait to sit on that beach and hear the soothing sounds of those LEGO blocks. We all are familiar with that sound. If you've ever looked for a piece in a big box of LEGOs. All right, Stacy, it's your turn. Wow us to the ore with your Minecraft getaway.

STACY HINOJOSA: Welcome to Minecraft Island, where if we don't have it, you can build it. Want to swim in a pool? Build one yourself. Looking to relax in a seaside mansion? We'll give you some stone. You do the rest. That way, you'll be sure to get the beach house of your dreams.

Do you love sightseeing? Good. Here on Minecraft Island, we want you to create something no tourist has ever seen before. Think the Grand Canyon is fun? What if it was hot pink and had a roller coaster? Dig the Eiffel Tower? Try building it and then covering it in flowers.

Our motto is, if you can dream it, you can make it. And if sightseeing isn't your thing, and this ad is just making you angry, we've still got you covered. Grab a bow and arrow or a sword and take that anger out on the hordes of skeletons, spiders, and zombies roving around the island. We don't like them either.

Wait, are you trying to build a castle out of LEGOs that you'll never, ever be able to go inside? Put that thing down and get on over to Minecraft Island, where you can build anything and everything and take your digital self on a tour of your own genius. Minecraft Island, where we might not have it, but we could have it if you build it.

MOLLY BLOOM: Endless possibilities on that trip. Josh, what stood out to you in our debaters micro rounds?

JOSH: I was very intrigued by the references to the Colosseum, the Sydney Opera House, and the globe-- was it the Globe Theater in Boone's. And I also loved all the references to just being able to make everything perfect for yourself on Minecraft Island.

MOLLY BLOOM: They both sound like lovely trips, but it's time to award a point. Only one can get it for this round. Have you decided?

JOSH: Yes, I have.

MOLLY BLOOM: Awesome. Then, it's time for our third around, the super stealthy--

speaker 3: Sneak attack.

MOLLY BLOOM: Your sneak attack today is forbidden letter. Stacy, Boone, for this challenge, we need you to tell us five awesome things about your side, but you can't use the first letter of your side in any of the words.

So for example, if I was representing Team Peaches, I might say, Georgia mascot, fuzzy fruit, juicy, summertime treat, cobbler filling. You'll notice I did not use the letter P anywhere in those words or phrases. Got it?

BOONE LANGSTON: Yeah. Yeah.

STACY HINOJOSA: Mhm,

MOLLY BLOOM: OK, we'll give you a few minutes to think. While you work, let's listen to some rocking hold music.

SPEAKER 5: (SINGING) It's LEGO, those little pricks, plastic pleasure hear them click. Build what you want even pirate ships. Minecraft, a world of blocks. Mine for gold. Computer rocks. Let's build and think outside the box.

MOLLY BLOOM: Stacy, you're up first this time. Blow our minds with five words or phrases about Minecraft. No M's allowed.

STACY HINOJOSA: OK, one, infinite blocks, infinite possibilities. Two, kill the Ender Dragon. Three, play with your friends around the world. Four, doesn't break the bank. And lastly, pandas, dolphins, creepers, axolotls, ravagers, squids, turtles, ocelots, and others.

MOLLY BLOOM: Nicely done. All right, Boone, you're up. Give us some LEGO love without any L's.

BOONE LANGSTON: One, creativity unboxed. Two, the brickers are-- oh, own. Brickers own design ideas. Three, wide variety of hues. Four, fun for every age. Five, pirates, space robots, witches, wizards, monkey kings, and more.

MOLLY BLOOM: Delightful. I really like how you both had similar thoughts for the ending. Very nicely done. Oh, Josh, this is a really tough one. Which forbidden letter lineups impressed you the most? Give that team a point. But don't tell us who's getting it. Have you made your decision?

JOSH: I have.

MOLLY BLOOM: OK. Then, it's time for our very last around.

SPEAKER 3: The final six.

MOLLY BLOOM: Boone, you've got just six words left to make us believe LEGO is the smash, boom, brick.

BOONE LANGSTON: May I use the letter L?

MOLLY BLOOM: Yes, you may now use the letter L again.

BOONE LANGSTON: Infinite creativity, ultimate versatility, unlimited possibility.

MOLLY BLOOM: Really nice, and lots of good L's in there. All right, Stacy, your turn. Give us the six words that'll make us believe that Minecraft is most magnificent.

STACY HINOJOSA: Blocks you can't lose-- can't lose.

MOLLY BLOOM: Oh, so good. All right, Josh, it is time to award your final point. Have you made your decision?

JOSH: I have.

MOLLY BLOOM: All right, then tally up those points. This battle of the blocks is coming to a close. We've been to the depths of Minecraft Valley and built our way out brick by brick, but only one team can be crowned the smash, , boom, supreme. Drum roll, please. The winner is--

JOSH: Minecraft.

STACY HINOJOSA: Yes. Yes. Yes.

BOONE LANGSTON: Josh, how could you?

STACY HINOJOSA: Oh, justice.

BOONE LANGSTON: Stacy, this was a real pleasure. I thought that your skills as a debater are certainly better than mine, and you made me laugh with your six words. So I got to give you credit there. So thank you very much.

STACY HINOJOSA: Oh, my goodness, well, you can really tell how much you love LEGO, and I think that that's very cool. And I hope that you can forgive me for all the mean things I said about LEGO.

BOONE LANGSTON: I can absolutely forgive you.

MOLLY BLOOM: And that's it for today's smash, boom, battle. Josh crowned Minecraft the smash, boom, best, but what about you?

JOSH: Head to smashboom.org and vote to tell us who you think should win.

MOLLY BLOOM: Smash, Boom, Best is brought to you by Brains On and APM Studios.

SPEAKER 1: It's produced by Rosie DuPont, Ruby Guthrie, Sanden Totten, and Molly Bloom.

SPEAKER 2: We had engineering help from Johnny Vince Evans and Dylan Glithe.

SPEAKER 1: And we had production help from Tricia Babita, Dan Latu, Marc Sanchez, and Menaka Wilhelm.

MOLLY BLOOM: Our executive producer is Beth Perlman, and the APM studio executives in charge are Lilly Kim, Alex Shaffer, and Joanne Griffith. Rosie DuPont is the voice of our whole music, and our announcer is Marley. We want to give a special thanks to Austin Kross, Taylor Kaufman, Mickey Bloom, Kathryn Regio, Andrea Sandy, and iLO. Boone, is there anyone you want to thank today?

BOONE LANGSTON: Sure. Big thanks to Danny for helping me stay organized, to Jordy and Charlie for being such cool kids and for participating in recording this fun podcast, to all my wonderful supporters in the Boonville Community, and to my buddy Mark for having been an incredible building partner on LEGO Masters.

MOLLY BLOOM: And how about you, Stacy, any special shout outs?

STACY HINOJOSA: Sure. I will give a shout out to my first and favorite boss, Stephanie Cohen. She taught me everything I know, and I know her daughter is a big LEGO fan, so I hope I did them both proud.

MOLLY BLOOM: Excellent. Do you want to give any special thanks, Josh?

JOSH: I would like to thank my speech and debate coaches, Miss Cohen and Devin Sarno.

MOLLY BLOOM: Before we go, let's hear who Leo thinks should win in his T-Rex versus triceratops debate.

LEO: I think triceratops would win because it had better defenses, like three horns and a frail.

MOLLY BLOOM: Do you have an idea for a knock-down, drag-out debate? Head to smashboom.org and tell us about it. We'll be back with a new debate battle next week.

STACY HINOJOSA: Bye.

JOSH: See ya.

BOONE LANGSTON: Catch on the brick side.

SINGER: (SINGING) Oh, you have a smash, boom, best. Oh, you have a smash, boom, best. It's a smash, boom, best. it's smash, boom, best.

STACY HINOJOSA: Well, I would just like to say that when I was a kid, I had LEGOs. And when we moved, they were stolen. So maybe that's the--

MOLLY BLOOM: Some heartbreak there.

STACY HINOJOSA: Yeah. Yeah. It's difficult to talk about.